I thought they changed the name to KFC, because it wasn't actually chicken...
So, they are changing to JW.org, because...
we had another couple over this weekend.
after taking a reasonable hike in the woods, we came back to the house, made a fire and began to talk a bit.
these folks are long time friends of ours and are (like us) slowly easing out of the kingdom hall.
I thought they changed the name to KFC, because it wasn't actually chicken...
So, they are changing to JW.org, because...
yes, i know that the watchtower ran out of ideas a long time ago but things have really gotten bad.. take a good look a the january wt and awake.
the watchtower is a rehash of the new tract (about death) and the awake is about their jw.org website.. good grief!
when do they finally declare these rags doa and give them a decent burial?.
In researching the July 15, 2013 Watchtower, I had to hunt and find copies of the articles they referred to in the "end notes."
In the first article of this magazine, "Tell us, when will these thing be?" They refer to the following for comparison:
Watchtower of February 15, 1994. The title of the issue: "Jehovah's witnesses: A Cult or Ministers of God?"
The title of the article referenced: "Tell us, when will these things be?"
i ask this respectfully, and do so after watching a favorite show of mine's season opener which had a new years storyline.
hollywood tends to make movies and television show episodes centered around holiday themes appear warm and blissful.
while i'm thankful to have never participated in such holidays, i can't deny my curiosity about ex-jws that do celebrate.
SFPW: The only time I "left the truth," was when I studied the JW teachings for a few years.
That said, I love this question!
I have many fond memories of Christmases gone by... Sadly, the days of our entire Family getting together for fodo and festivities, is now gone. The JW's have infiltrated and succeeded in dividing our family in such a way, that we no longer see our JW relatives.
The holidays have become a major point of contention, and the WTS has succeeded in their goal. Their true motive in abstaining from family celebrations, is to isolate and control the JW Followers. My young niece and nephew are now singled out of our family, not allowed to celebrate or receive gifts from us. This indoctrination serves more than one purpose.
as others have suggested, their separation from family gives them a feeling of being "different," "chosen," and most of all "superior" to the rest of us, who have succumb to the tradiations of gathering ourselves together. Eating and exchanging gifts, with some members traveling longer distance, to "come home for the holidays," is not displeasing to Jehovah God, our heavenly father. It is displeasing to his earthly organization. The GB wants to maintain absolute control and power over every day of the year. Do not forsake the kingdom work, just to spend even an afternoon with your unbelieving relatives!
Maybe you are asking this question, because you are considering a holiday celebration yourself. Do you have any relatives or people you love, who celebrate Christmas? there is likely to be at least one aspect you would enjoy. I especially like the singing and it is so much fun to go and sing carols to shut ins at nursing homes.
jws don't waste time talking today.
she knocked on door, husband answered, she said were doing a world wide work and shoved a pamplet in his hand and left.
i remember the days when we actually try to get the householders in a conversation.
They are tracking and reporting how many of these tracts they place. It's a numbers game.
a friend, former jw like me, wants me to ask you a question.
she remembers as a child that her jw parents believed that satan could come up through any perfectly round hole and cause you to sin.
for instance, if her father built a fire ring at the beach, he purposely put a corner on it so satan couldn't catch them.
The November 28 prediction is a corporate conspiracy, to get people to start their Christmas shopping early.
No wonder I keep getting all these notifications for pre-Black Friday sales!
ok so today while at breakfast get a phone call fom my daughter asking were i am because an elder/ friend had stoped by my house hoping to see me.
its been a few months since ive seen this guy and the only one that seems to actually care.
so anyway he meets me at were i was having breakfast and we start to talk.
Besty: funny! Ba-boom. Chhhhh.
friends,.
who was in any doubt that our jw believe is a marketing model, see this pictures of the still existing hq of jw at columbia heights.. earlier comments on jwn that something is going to change in the organisation, these comments are true.. in a few years we will not talk about the watchtower society, we wil talk about jw.org.
i think the current leadership will make a transfer to a new start.
I realize this won't be popular, but I enjoy reading the thoughts of a true servant of Jehovah's organization. I appreciate your input, SFPW.
My only gripe with you, is your refusal to answer questions. I have so many, and no honest JW will acknowledge or respond from the bible.
The reinvention of the WTS will be a great move for the society. We will see more JW's online, and they can begin preaching to every corner of the World Wide Web! Marvelous idea.
More JW's surfing the Internet on their iPads... I think it is brilliant! They can dispense spiritual food to the deserving sheep, keep their documents up to date, and correct any errors, seamlessly. think of the trees (and lives) that will be saved!
i see some post here that want family and friends to see ttatt immediately.. i'm a gardener, a serious one.
we make sure we put in an area that gets sun, check the soil each year, put in compost and other amendments, make sure we plant seeds compatible with the ones next to them, plant far enough apart, proper amount of water.
everything can be perfect but when i go out the day after planting...nothing has broken through yet.
I get impatient with people who refuse to think for themselves. I can't help it. I am a know-it-all, so you should really just listen to me!
(That is what I am thinking, when I speak to my JW robot family members)
It is particularly frustrating, because my husband and I discovered TTATT, before we jumped into the pool. We investigated it carefully, listened to our teachers and studied the publications, even attended meetings regularly for over a year. It honestly did not take a lot of evidence to knock down their house of cards for us, once we started looking directly at the WTS itself.
We asked our teacher our questions, and he crossed his arms and refused to answer or acknowledge them. He revealed HIMSELF that day. He was lying, and we knew it. The evidence he brought back the next week, was a typewritten transcript of an article from pre-1975. Bogus. We awoke with a start. I was bawling afather he left. How could they Deny facts? Realizing that our "friends" were not actually motivated by love, but fear of the org itself, It hit me so suddenly. We immediately stopped attending meetings. We knew we were lying to our "friends" by showing up and making our babies be quiet during their fear-inducing indoctrination sessions.
Sadly, they did succeed in training us in many ways. We did not want to "stumble" anyone's progress in their faith! It took me a few years to recover from the lies, before I realized the true NATURE of this organization. By then, it was too late. My supposedly thinking parents, the very ones who raised me to think for myself, had submitted themselves to serving the Borg and chasing that carrot. (Thank you, Blondie! You have your finger right on the pulse of this issue).
While I was free from the control that had taken over our lives, my family was being told how evil I was. I was now a servant of satan. Since I wasn't listening, I didn't realize the lies that they were being fed about me and my innocent children. While we were licking our wounds, they were building walls around my extended family.
This healing process is taking much longer for me than I expected. It really is still shocking to see how far away the minds of my parents now reside. The twisted things that come out of the mouth of my father... Unbelievable. He actually believes these absurdities. They have chosen a new family, and they need to stay inside the narrow lines, or it all crumbles. Hopefully someday they will wake up, but I don't know what it will take.
Good thread... Many of us are impatiently waiting for loved ones to hear the sirens that are going off. How can they NOT see this new light?? It is a beacon. A spotlight. A searchlight. Come to the light, people! The Borg is being exposed, and it's true nature is shining so brightly for everyone to see. Open your eyes. Escape!
Love it. Great references, Blondie!
i work in the medical field and every 2 years i need 24 hours if continuing education to stay licensed.
my deadline is coming up and i am taking the classes this week and next week.
heres the thing, i scheduled them both on sundays and ive procrastinated over this two year renewal period.
We used to attend a congregation that had frequent visitors, who were "on vacation." My parents enjoy going to meetings when they travel. It reassures them that they have brothers and sisters, everywhere they go. I think my dad loves the attention.